brown shogun classic: 2021-2023

continuation of: viewtopic.php?p=58395#p58395

>be me
>26
>just moved to japan from the states as a brown guy
>18 year old from china transfers into my japanese class
>i accidentally sit next to her one day
>she doesn't speak english, i don't speak chinese, so we just speak japanese
>she wants me to sit next to her from now on????
>surewhynot
>sit next to her every day now, we get along well

>go out for pasta one day
>first time she has ever hung out with a non-chinese person in her life
>go out again on a different day for beef noodles
>try to pull her to my place cuz yolo
>"in china girls only go to a guy's house if they're dating!"
>bullshit excuse, i decide to fuck with her
>look her dead center in the eyes
>"ok so u wanna start dating?"
>blushes bright red
>maintain the eye contact
>starts freaking out, can't even speak
>"lol jk"
>hits me a bunch while we're outside
>"OMG no one jokes about that in china!!!"
>"lol this is japan and i'm american"
>oh great im hanging out with a tsundere

>invite her out to aquarium because things seem to be going somewhere
>she leaves me on read for 2 days
>but then she responds!!! with yes!!!
>meet up, head off to aquarium
>reach aquarium, front of aquarium is outdoor on roof
>lots of colored lights and big fishtanks
>girl is in awe
>"i want to be proposed to here!!!"
>lolz
>walk around entire aquarium
>come back to outdoor lights and fishtank place

>ok now's the time...
>"hey come here real quick"
>lead us to some bleachers
>"i want to ask you something"
>nani?
>"this is not a joke"
>hai, wakatta
>"let's start going out"
>i confessed to her
>she freaks out like before, face turning red, etc
>but makes a bunch of excuses
>"but i'm not even cute...but i'm studying all the time...do u even know how old i am??"
>"ur cute stfu / i don't want to meet you everyday / 18"
>"do u really want to go out with me im not even that great"
>"i believe in u"
>she starts shaking and crying
>"no one has ever told me that in my life"
>"what do you want to do?"
>"...i...don't know"

>i bounce us away to go grab dinner
>"i...i'll...be your girlfriend...only for tonight..."
>lolwtf
>"ok, let me see your hand"
>she shows her hand
>i grab it, interlock fingers with her
>her hand shakes, can't hold my hand more than 30 sec
>"i've never held hands with a guy..."
>WTF??????
>"my school in china was strict. and my boyfriend in high school never even tried"
>lol r u srs
>also she admits i'm her first crush

>go grab takoyaki (fried octopus), but it fucking sucks
>while we're eating she tries to take creepshot of me
>i notice
>"hey go ahead"
>"noooo i didnt want to take a pic of u....."

>starts lightly raining, decide to call it
>while walking i realize we're in the middle of the road
>i jump over some chain barrier
>she can't get over it
>ok ronnie coleman time
>"u ready?"
>"ready for what???????"
>YEAH BUDDY, LIGHT WEIGHT!
>i pick her up by the legs and lift her over the chain barrier
>she screams and orders me to put her down
>then she hits me and calls me a baka 10 times

>at train gate, tell her to give me a hug
>gives me awkward af side hug
>nah fuck that
>i grab her chin and peck her on the lips
>she scowls, and storms off through the train gate
>next day in class she completely ignores me

"oh my god colgate u wrote 20000 characters about getting a PECK ON THE LIPS?????????????? YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET LAID!!!!!! i'm never reading this log again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u beta simp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate u die!!!!!!! i'm gonna kill u so u can never write a lame log post again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"...(b-b-but i'm still going to read ur log...u idiot...)"


褐色人 に 惚れ 込んじゃった！
Kasshokujin ni horekonjatta!
i fell for a brown guy!

第３話　凍死
episode 3: death by freezing

after stealing this completely pure and untouched 18 year old's first kiss, she has completely frozen me out in class

there's a simpy chinese guy who sits near us. and he's going out of his way to talk to her (in chinese btw). she's also talking to him normally.

just to confirm the degree of me being frozen out, i show her a random doodle that i drew during class (i usually do this and she always laughs and has comments about them)

she looks at it for 1 second, and then immediately turns away!

hmph!

i wonder how most guys would react to being in this situation.

but as for me, i realized i hit the point of no return

i'm on the fucking other side now

i've been friendzoned and "made friends" in general with so many different girls in the past

and they used to complain about guys they were seeing to me

swear off ever seeing those guys again

talk about how i'm so easy to talk to and they feel like they can speak to me about anything

but of course then they would go hang out with the other guy again!!! making out with him in the hallways!!! probably hooking up!!! idk!!!!!!

the fact that i was being frozen out meant something very important
i jumped on her the previous night. now she wants to test to see if i'm really the guy of her dreams.
some people here might be against calling it "shit tests"
but i finally understand it now.
i know she didn't actually hate me. of course she was "mad". but she was still attracted, if not even more.
she wants to see if i can handle her at her worst. she thinks i can do it, and i know she's going to be even more lovey dovey after this
but i still have to actually prove it. she believes in me. that's why she's doing this

so...i basically change literally nothing about myself

i do absolutely nothing. i have the exact same vibe in class as i normally do. i just pretend she doesn't exist



midway through class, i see her go to my LINE profile on her phone multiple times, but then immediately close it

eventually she breaks and sends me a message

i don't do anything

she nudges me and motions me to check my phone

if you don't apologize, i will never date you for the rest of your life
what u mean
never mind

i never responded to that



next class, she is all bubbly and smily again and talks to me normally. as if she didn't ignore me the entirety of yesterday!

we go back to vibing and talking normally etc

the class after, she tries to meekly ask me if we can have lunch after class

but i actually had a hair straightening appt so i turned her down. she got extremely nervous and shaky and apologized like 10 times. lol wtf

the class after THAT, she catches up to me walking after class was out.

hey are u free now? lets go eat lunch together!
sure why not, come with me to my station again
can't we just eat around here?
but i live at the other station and i want to go there
i want to talk to you...
we can talk now while walking

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that thing i wanted u to apologize for...it was that kiss...
did u hate ur first kiss with me?
n-n-no.....i didn't really ha....NO!!!!!!!!!! i hated it!!!!!!!!!!!! i really hated it!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh? my bad lol
what!!
huh? didnt you want me to apologize for it?
do you think that is enough of an apology!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes
!!!!!!!
i didnt do anything bad. i always kiss the girl the day we start dating
in china the first kiss is so important!!! it's only for when people are going to get married!!!
but this is japan and i'm american
but i'm chinese!!!

we have some more convo and then we arrive in a corridor of the train station

are you still coming with me to my station to get lunch
no we had the conversation i wanted to have
ok bye



wow this is so fucking DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i realized she's trying to lead me down a friendzone path

i don't want more fucking girl friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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when i used to live with Troy and @lacroix in nashville, lacroix had a long term gf he was seeing

she started out as a virgin too with zero guy experience. but she made it kind of difficult and was playing a bunch of weird games

Troy would give lacroix lots of advice through hours and hours of talks in the kitchen. i was hanging out too. even though none of what Troy said applied to me at the time, i listened and soaked up what he was telling lacroix like a sponge

every time lacroix followed Troy's advice, it worked. she started being less and less testy and more and more open every time lacroix implemented Troy's advice

now that i'm in this situation, what would Troy tell me?

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morning yall

i deliberately sit in a seat away from her. it happened to be my old seat and it wasn't taken by someone else.

one of my other class acquaintances sits near me and we chat a bit during class. basically i just let the class go and happen as if nothing happened. but i'm sitting in a different seat away from her.

btw somehow i've been making decent acquaintances/friends with some of the chinese dudes in the class. some of them also want to speak japanese and feverishly go to extra classes and study for tests all day. for some reason, they refuse to speak japanese with each other, and most of them have zero japanese friends. i'm conveniently one of the only people in the class actually making an effort to speak japanese all the time. kinda strange i'm getting along with chinese ppl more than fellow westerners lol.

anyway, at some point that same simpy chinese guy from earlier shows up to class. the seat next to her is open, so of course he joyfully sits there.

and they are joyfully chatting and vibing! everyone is friends!

are u mad?

i notice she sends me a message but i didn't open it or respond. class elapses for another hour.

i'm so lonely without u (T_T) i have so much fun straightmanning (tsukkomi) all ur jokes (T_T)

she's sending these messages while chatting friendly with a nice chinese guy sitting next to her

this is what it's like being on the other side. holy shit



after class i go to a new gym that is near my house. hit a sick chest workout. YEAH BUDDY! LIGHT WEIGHT!

but i am still stuck at 102.5kg on bench press!!!! . fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

change of pace




next class, she shows up in a green dress, no glasses, and makeup.

i sit next to her again.

good morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
morning, cute dress
thank u!!!!! guess where i bought it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol idk? shibuya?? harajuku??
no!!! i bought it at your station!!!!! i went there yesterday!!! it was like i went to your house
uhh ok haha

locked and loaded

if i didn't move seats the previous day, this would have been stalemate.


第４話　墓地を選べ！
episode 4: choose your graveyard!

(wednesday)
i want to meet my gf again
send me your school schedule
*sends schedule*
gf? who is ur gf?
think about it yourself read

ok, admittedly this message from me was too reactive. i should have probably just ignored her question and pushed forward with scheduling.

but lots of forgiveness and room to fuck up due to her literally being my classmate.

(thursday)
we text during class break
let's go to this park at another station on friday. great view
sounds good!
come in cosplay
no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...i don't have the clothes or the money...
ur so cute when you're serious
i will kill you
i will step on you, and then i will stab you with a knife
i want to erase you from this earth
yes yes
you want me to buy you a knife from the retail store?
i don't care if i am known as a serial killer
ok class is starting again
oh ok


friday, it rains like FUCKING BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wind is constantly FLIPPING my umbrella inside and out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lmfao

i'm thinking we might have to cancel today's meetup...but let's see

she shows up to class in a short skirt and makeup...sooooooooo

oh my god ur so dumb!!! u idiot!!! how did you not even check the weather before setting the date!!!!
lmao

then during class she sends me these messages... today i want to kill you with a knife. tomorrow i want to kill you with a gun. that is the "change of pace"!


fall to hell
go to heaven
choose your graveyard
hey u like indian curry?
ur such a fuckin idiot
OMG!!!!! indian curry????
i wanna eat it i wanna eat it i wanna eat it!!!!
i'll make u indian curry
is it going to be gross!!!!!!
do u still want to meet today
yes. i want to meet u so i can kill u
since it's raining like balls, if you want you can come to my place and i'll make you curry
die

i told u in china girls only go to the guys house if they're dating...
but this is japan and i'm american
but i'm chinese

at this point i'm frustrated. i actually don't even want to talk to her for the rest of class and kinda face away from her.

like what the fuck is her game!!!!!!!!!

she is perfectly happy with receiving attention from the literal coolest guy she knows and then doing nothing else with him outside of class!!!

after class, i immediately left.

when i was halfway to the station, i looked back to see if she was behind.

she was.

ok, just out of curiosity, let's just walk very slowly and let her pass me. i'm also going to do a bunch of obvious things like jumptouch signs and jump over stuff (i usually do this kind of stuff while walking anyway so it's not weird)

she looks at me briefly and then passes me

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes she fucking likes me. of course she does. but she is 100% fine with just getting validation from me in class and nothing else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so long as i give her attention in class she is totally fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

god FUCKING damn it.................................FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

she's fucking stringing me along with this violent tsundere act!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she fucking knows i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok, either this interaction is going to progress or i'm dropping the WHOLE THING!!!!!!!!!

an early death it must be, an early death it shall be!!! heaven or hell, choose your graveyard!!!

i can go approach girls anyway!!!!!!!

i start fuming in the station and pacing for like half an hour, without entering the train gates

"ok. monday i have to sit away from her again. she knows the fucking deal. she knows that only lame chinese guys will simp for her without me. i don't exist anymore from monday."

i know the next thing after that will be she will wonder why i sat away from her again and this time i have to pull the "drama game" or "being straight up honest" or whatever term there is for basically "getting real about the situation"

this is totally fucking bullshit!!!!!!!! i was ju- can u make me the curry so i can take it home?

...
what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm still too embarrassed to go to your house (T_T)

...wait

no i'm not going to make you curry so you can take it home
but if you still want to meet today, we can meet at a cafe at my station instead
(;o;)
thank u
let's do that
thank u so much

i go home, go to the gym, get a SICK!!!! back workout!!!!!!!! take a shower

i'm here

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including the next part already hit the character limit (30000) lmfao. don't worry i promise to post the entire thing today!!!!

CONTINUATION: viewtopic.php?p=58452#p58452

episodes 1-2: viewtopic.php?p=58395#p58395
episodes 3-4: viewtopic.php?p=58428#p58428

褐色人 に 惚れ 込んじゃった！
Kasshokujin ni horekonjatta!
i fell for a brown guy!

第５話　大人になった
episode 5: now i became an adult

we meet at the station, and head to a cafe 5 mins from my place

i order a yuzu (japanese citrus) soda because i like fruity drinks and she orders a strawberry banana smoothie...because i guess she likes fruity drinks too

we sit next to each other at a bar glued to the window

she starts showing me her extremely advanced and frankly cryptic textbook that she's using in her afternoon classes

i want to enter the top university in japan! i will do it!

let's have the most chinese goal of all time lmao

anyway i look at the page she shows me

look at this! this is so difficult. there's no way u could understand it lol

it's some cryptic ass chart in japanese. this is like fucking school again for me too. and i don't just mean normal friendly japanese school.

i slog through reading it for a few minutes

ahhh, this is like...
shhhh!!! be quiet!!!!!

???

ok ppl who have met me irl know i have a very loud voice. i'm also not aware of my own voice volume at all. probably if i didn't have this characteristic called out by multiple people in my life, this would have probably pissed me off but it doesn't. i'm more pissed at myself for having no volume control lol. so i actually kind of appreciate if people tell me i'm being too loud

also the cafe we are in is like dead silent. so understandable

also i realize this is probably going to be a good way to pull later so i decide to let it happen. i'll just keep randomly raising my voice.

ah, my bad. anyway uhhh this is like international income flow or something...
omg...yeah....also can u be more quiet
and uhhh....these are different types of international income flow...and uhh....

oh my god im getting a headache

this is shit that even if it were in english i would hardly understand

yeah ok i like kind of get what this is about but the details are really fuzzy and i dont feel like reading it all lol. u really study hard
omg...can u please talk softer...

ok that is at least the 5th time she has called me out for my voice volume (i didn't write the whole convo here lol)

time to pounce

here we fuckin go

this is the "drama game". or the "being honest". or "getting real". or whatever this is called. lol u can be the judge of the name.

but i knew the next conversation was necessary and i was prepared for it

how about we just read this at my place so i can talk at whatever volume i want
but in china girls only go to the guy's place if they are a couple
yes i know you keep saying that. i said we should start dating but you still haven't given me a real answer. you are like putting this wall up about our whole thing and i feel like i can't get past it. can you tell me what's going on

she didn't understand the word "wall" (挫折) so i just typed it on my phone and showed her the kanji. then she understood it because she's chinese.

actually at this point she also shushed me again. so i just said let's just talk to each other over text here

actually...i'm scared to go to your house...
lol why
because...ur so strong...if i go to ur house and u did something to me...i wouldn't be able to escape

what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

talk about the most ego boosting pull rejection of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

holy shit

she thinks i'm so strong that i could do anything to her!!!!

i was actually smiling so hard when i saw that

but all i would do to you is kiss you and hug you...
yeah...like when u gave me my first kiss...the first kiss is so important!
but i think it's important too
it felt like u were just kissing anyone!
u were like squirming away!!! i kissed u because i think u are important
when i see ur face i want to kiss it

she turned away and blushed and her face turned beet red

so there's nothing that could have been done about that time. we spent the whole evening together and i couldn't control myself lol

her face turned even more beet red and she started giggling

ok...i'll go to your house...but you have to promise not to touch me!
ok

oh my god

just writing this here again shot up my heart rate

this turned into a pull?????????????????????

i'm so fucking glad it rained like balls today!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the fuck!!!!!!!!!!!! fuck the park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

good things always happen to me on rainy days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we clean up the table and trek out into the faucet-like rainfall

omg...i can't believe i'm doing this...
yes you are going to a weird guy's house. i am the weird guy. it's a pleasure to meet you
!!!!! u were the one who invited me idiot!!!!!!



we arrive at my house.

holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck

i have an 18 year old handholdless kissless (before me) virgin in my house

hooooooooooooooo

i did not expect to even get here



since my place is literally a microscopically small kitchen and a bedroom that only has a bed, tv, and desk, we basically go straight to my bed

i have her sit down on the bed

i want to hear your music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok from previous convos, i know she is basically in the same universe as i am regarding interests. it's so fucking rare lmao. but except it's not. not rare in asia even for a girl to have my bizarre tastes and interests

also she used to play in bands in school and loves singing

any time we started getting into my interests in convos, i basically deflected it all the time with "i'll show you later". i figured it was going to help at some point. and that some point was now

i show her some random project files, including some unfinished vocaloid song

oh my god!!!!!!!!! ur a genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is amazing!!!!!!! is this hatsune miku????? i love it!!!!!

i was just calmly showing random things but in my head i was like WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M IN THE PRESENCE OF A GIRL WHO LIKES THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have a bunch of random stress relieving items near my desk and i started showing them off to her. i have 20kg/40kg/60kg hand grips and a rubik's cube.

this basically is just more accidental flexing from me

what!!! ur so strong!!! and u can solve that??? are u god???

god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't think anyone has blown up my ego this much in my life, let alone a girl i literally pulled to my room. i am just remaining totally cool but in my head i'm jumping up and down in joy

at some point i flip on the tv and chill

ok...maybe you are 0.00000000001% of a good person
oh? thanks lol
yeah...now that i came to your house...i see that you are just 0.00000000001% of a good person...

she's sitting kinda near me but not touching me

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holy fuck. i literally know exactly what to do.

this time i actually know how to fucking escalate up to what i want.

i've been in this situation so many times in my life. even before kyil. i had girls from school in my room, on my bed. and sometimes we cuddled. but i didn't make any moves beyond that.

then since kyil, i have had so many dates and so many pulls. so many failed pulls. so many girls freaking out and leaving from me escalating too fast and without empathy. so many pulls where i couldn't pull the trigger in the bedroom too. but then i started getting makeouts with like every pull. and i started getting laid too.

but now, i understand.

i know exactly what this girl feels right now. i know she likes me. but if i just whip my dick out or jump on her again she will freak out. she already knows i have the "balls" to make the move. in fact, those "balls" got me frozen out and nearly friendzoned for the 2 weeks after.

and i know what she said at the cafe.

i think maybe in the past i was just insecure that girls didn't like me and didnt really want to do anything, so i would have had to force them to do things

obviously that is a terrible mindset.

in this case, this girl wants to feel like i'm acknowledging that she wants to do things too . not just me doing random crap.



boys

buckle up

some shit is about to fucking go down

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ok if i'm 0.000001% of a good person...then hold my hand for FIVE seconds........then that's it

i put my hand out flat on the bed

she blushes. what color? yes of course, beet red .

eeeehhhhhh???? o-....o-okay....

she looks away and slowly moves her hand towards mine...slightly taking it back a few times...

but eventually settles on my hand

i interlock our fingers

she tries to look towards our hands

after some amount of seconds i disconnect


how was it?
i....i liked it...

she said with a pouty face

we watch tv and i keep stalling a bit more.

then

do you want to rest on my shoulder for a little bit?

she looks at me...

come

with no words she slowly leans into my shoulder

i stroke her hair as she's resting on my shoulder. then i take her hand and hold it

stall a bit more talking about the tv program.

actually ur a good person...i like u...
glad to hear u changed ur mind



then

oh my fucking god

here we go

this is the point of no return



i look at her in the eyes

she looks up at me

i take her chin with my index finger and thumb

pull her up to me


*chu~*

finally a real kiss!!!

i look at her face. she slowly opens her eyes. and looks at me like a puppydog.

i go back in and start kissing again. now we're making out.



wait, she's never kissed a guy before?????

oh my god this is so good!!! it's like heaven!!! what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



we're making out, and i slowly start to explore her body over her clothes.

start with her arms, then the waist. i have her move her arms on my body too



this is going very well...

this is way more than i thought i was going to do today

how far can i push this????

am i really going to do this?

ok, i'm really going to do this



i start going for her breasts over her shirt

i'm feeling her bra and gently caressing her titties

damn they're bigger than i thought. D cups.

i disengage from kissing her but keep my hand on her breasts



now i want u to think about what a girl would probably say in this situation

because i definitely did not guess this

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...i...i-if i knew we were going to do this...i would have worn cuter lingerie....

what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's what she said?????????

that is what she said.

i start feeling her nipples under her bra...



oh my god...i'm feeling up an 18 year old's bare titties........am i going to fucking jail....................................

this is literally the first time she's ever actually kissing a guy..........

ok i'm definitely going to jail



i start to lift her shirt up and tell her to raise her arms

she holds her arms up in the air

what!!! am i really doing this!!! am i going to undress an 18 year old with zero experience?????

how long has she been 18???? she was probably 16 when i started posting on kyil. what the fuck!!!!!!!



more making out once i take off her shirt

i undo her bra with two hands while kissing her. she doesn't object at all

i fondle her breasts and play with her nipples

then i disengage again



oh my god

i'm looking at her titties

they're perfect

literally the nipple size is the exact size it needs to be, they are supple, round

this is what was hiding under those university student boring hoodies and jeans

wwwwwhhhhhhhhaaaaa

my fucking classmate is topless on my bed??? what!!!!!



kyaaaaa!!!!!

she balls up away from me and crosses her arms over her breasts

t...t-...t-t-this is so embarrassing!!!!!
no it's perfect
omg ur so weird!!!
yes. i am a weird guy. u came to a weird guy's house. it's a pleasure to meet you
because u invited me idiot!!!!!!

do you want me to take off my shirt too?
n-no!!!!!...maybe........if u want.....now you have to!!!!



i take off my shirt and then have her lay down next to me

i look her in the eyes and stroke her hair

this is the face i want to kiss. i told you

she blushes and looks to the side while smiling

i pull her in to kiss again.

i'm feeling her titties while i get her to feel my body and chest.


i really would have worn cuter lingerie if i knew we were gonna do this...
cute enough to me

it was just standard sheer bra and panties lol

how many girls do u bring in this room per day????

what!!!!!!

per day?????

what kind of question is that!!!

lmfao!!!! she actually thinks i pull multiple girls a day into this room!!! that's nuts!!!

idk normally 3 or 4. but since ur special i didn't pull any other girls here today
omg i knew it!!!!!!!!!!! ur such a player!!!!!!!! how many girlfriends do u have right now!!!
idk maybe 3 or 4...lol jk
omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well....well! oh yeah? guess what!!! i have 3 boyfriends right now!!!!....oh ok never mind......even i can't convince myself that to be true...

so cute lol

more making out and feeling up etc

i start going for her pussy and rubbing it over her panties


a...a....are we...going to...do it....?
lol i don't know im just doing what feels right
well....i...mean....
?
..i...mean...this is only for today, okay!!! after this i'm not coming back!!!!
oh?
...but...we.....we can do it.....if you want.....

what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did she just literally give me VERBAL CONSENT???????????
what on fucking earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eh? lol should we do it?????
wait but u don't have those....uhhh....things?
what things
the things!!! to make it safe!

awwwwwww, she didn't know the word condom!!!
ok im definitely going to jail

u mean condoms?
whats that?
wtf. you know what a condom is. put it in your translator

she can't get the japanese spelling for condom right so i do it for her and then she understands
yes, that!
phew lmfao

but u don't have those right? so we can't do it...

lmao girl i have a stash of like 40 condoms in a hidden bag yo

hmmm i think i have some lol
huh???

i pretend to dig around and then fetch one

why do you have condoms!!!!! were u preparing for this???
what are you talking about, dont you know every guy has a stash of condoms
n-no!!!! well...i don't know...
it's like how girls have their period products. guys have their condoms
OMG!!!!!!!!! thats not the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


anyway...well...and it's only because i'm never going to come back here again!!!! i'll only be ur gf tonight!!!! that's it!!!!...
...so...we...can...only do it this time...

wha

lmfao what

let me get this straight

i try to go full gf mode on this chick

and then pull her and she insists we should have a one night stand

lmao!!!!!!!

lol alright, if it's ok with you

i go back to making out with her and rubbing her pussy over her pants

why arent u putting the condom on?
u gotta chill lol we're not there yet

lmfao first time i'm trying to slow the girl down

btw...ur technique is so good



i navigate my hand under her pants and get my fingers over her pussy

i try to start fingering it but...

ow!!!!!!!!!

yeah i can barely get like half of my finger in

ur using a lot of force!!

yeah...this is very difficult lol. im barely moving my finger

this chick is definitely a virgin lmao



when are u gonna...put it in...
lol are you sure you're ready for that?
...maybe...i'll try...


even i didn't feel ready

but she is LITERALLY ASKING FOR IT lmfaooooo

i put the condom on and then try to position myself.

i've realized every girl has a different ideal position and u have to figure it out with each one

but this one has a very hotttttttttt position


i put her legs up on my shoulders

i take my cock with one hand...

and...

i barely get the tip in...



wowzerz! i got the lay! penis has entered the vagina! +1 guys woohoo! ok time to stop reading this report! great job! A+!



her eyelids are sewn shut and she's looking away and grimacing. i'm holding one of her hands.

uhhh...i try to put it in a little bit more...

OWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! OW OW OW!!!!

i still have not even gotten my dick halfway inside, it's like barely past the tip

omg...ur so big...it's like bigger than porn..........

lmfao i'm only like 5.5 inches

oh? you watch porn?
yeah.....ur bigger than all of them...

how does this girl literally know how to perfectly blow up my ego in every possible way



i end up trying something where i do like a bunch of...like quarter thrusts

but i keep sliding out of her because i can't get all the way in without her flinching back in pain

did you cum???
wtf no lol
when are you going to cum?
idk, sex isn't all about cumming u know

i want to push myself way farther inside but it's basically impossible right now



i decide to lay down instead and have her try to get on top. see if she can guide my dick into her pussy the way she likes it.

but that basically doesnt work either because she can't put it inside of her without it hurting lmao

i actually lose my boner here because now we're just thinking and trying to solve a problem........

eehhh?? what happened??? do you hate me????
lol wtf no

i abort the entire plan of trying to have more penetrative sex with her and rewind back to making out with her and feeling her up

i put her hand on my dick and teach her how to jerk me off while i nibble on various parts of her body


u know...i actually watch a lot of porn...
lol how much
like...once a week!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh my god she's an angel

this is epic

this is 100% my type

but she really wants to prove to me that she's a huge hentai



she starts...

MAKING OUT WITH MY EAR!!!!!!!!!

wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!

what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how does this feel so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

she's like licking all of my outer ear, all the crevices. sucking on my ear. kissing it. while she's jerking me off

holy FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is this the same person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what is happening!!!!

i'm making noises i never thought i could make in my life

i think i'm the fucking virgin now.....................i never even would have thought of this in my life




holy fuck...hey you want to try sucking my dick?

from that ear sucking experience i thought she might actually be good at blowjobs too

ok...use a little less teeth
sorry!!! ur so big!!!!!!!!! i can barely put it in my mouth!

yes thanks for blowing up my ego for the 258th time now blow me

holy fuck tho, once i show her a rhythm, give her a little bit of direction to use her tongue more and where to touch, and she backs off on the teeth

what the FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is some god-tier blowjob. it's the second time i've gotten a blowjob like this, but this one is even better.

somehow she's still using a liiiiittttttle bit of teeth. but it's like just the right amount where it actually makes me ultra aroused

i'm wailing and making fucking weird ass noises, biting my pillow, holding her thigh, holding my bed

where the fuck did THIS come from??????????????????? guess u gotta watch porn exactly once a week. no more, no less.




she gets tired and so i direct her to come back and cuddle me while i fondle her titties. she starts licking my ear again and i start making more weird noises.

so u still didn't cum??
nah
really??? even after all of that??? wow ur amazing!!! thats crazy!!! ur so healthy!!!
lol wtf, do you want to see it?
yes!!! wait hold on!

she grabs her glasses and then lays down with her elbows on the bed and hands on her chin, staring straight at my dick with her glasses

ok, ready!!!

i jerk off for a bit and basically mentally prepare myself to actually come

i look at her titties and fondle them with my other hand while jerking off then i blast off!!! all over myself

good work!!!!!!!!!!

she goes and grabs tissues and cleans me up



we lay down and now we have pillow talk

u know what turns me on? when the guy makes weird noises because of the girl...that's why i was eating up your ear...because i saw that in porn

lol of course

also pegging!
NOPE!

i put up the hand symbol for no in japanese

aww...

we cuddle some more and she nuzzles into me

do u like me?
yes
yay! i like you too!

...hey...
hm?
only look at me...don't look at any other girls...at least for tonight...after tonight u can look at other girls...but tonight i want u to only look at me...

lmao oh i get it

i think she is doing the "only today" thing because it somehow allows her to let loose

she's the type of girl who studies 9 hours a day and is always worrying and thinking about the future. she's actually pretty bright.

but obviously she would have a bunch of logical hangups around anything sexual.

so if she just tells herself "just for tonight ok...just for today" then it removes those mental blocks

or maybe my half-assed psychoanalysis is wrong. lmao idk

lol sure
hehehe, i like you. i reeeeeaaaaaallly like u. i like u so much.

she cuddles her head into my body

"today, i became an adult"


最終話
epilogue

she opens up about some other things during pillow talk including how she's emotionally scarred from ever speaking english because she got bullied by her childhood english teachers. that's why she devoted her time to japanese.

i've never met a chinese person who can't speak english so it's strange lol.

after the pillow talk, we go grab some dinner from the convenience store. she wants to wear my clothes when we go out, and once i fit her with some, she joyfully proclaims that she's me now.

we eat and then i have us shower together. i SLAP her ass as she walks out of the shower. hehehehehehh

we have another round of sex/degenerate foreplay. i still can't really get it in and ultimately give up on real penetrative sex today. we do a thing where i let her kind of ride me and coast over the shaft of my dick for a little bit tho. she asks me how she can make it hurt less and i basically say we have to keep fucking lol.

she sleeps for a bit, but i cant fucking sleep because i'm trying to process what the fuck just happened lmao

eventually at 4am she wakes up and we do another round. i just have her eat my ear out and suck my dick and i probably woke up the neighboring tenants. oh well

i want to be with u forever...i'm gonna ditch school today...let's be together...
lol are u sure?
yes!
ok in that case i'll make u breakfast
yay!!!!

i go out to buy ingredients to cook us breakfast. she voluntarily without asking organizes all of my clothes while i'm out lmao. cook her indian scrambled eggs (garlic, onion, cumin, tomato, green chilli) because i'm indian. she takes a pic of it and sends it to her mom, saying that "this is the food that the guy i like made for me".

after we ate, i wanted her to suck my dick again. she did for a little bit and then i was like "ok just keep ur top off......."

i just stared at her titties while jerking off and fondling her thighs. held back maybe 2x. then i BLASTED OFF!!!!!! and it shot all over my face!!!

OMG ur an idiot!!!!!!!!! now u have to clean up again...
lol. couldn't control myself cuz of u

...
...

do u know the moment i really fell hard for you?
when
when u lifted me over that chain barrier
lmao i thought u hated that
no that was the moment that really made me go crazy for you. that you could just pick me up like that without thinking and so easily
haha
i want u to do it again while we're in ur room

i lifted her up in the air for a few seconds and put her down. then she gave me a peck on each cheek and then on the lips.

i like u so much

i send her home around 1pm the next afternoon.


remarks
tl;dr: took the virginity of an 18 year old in my class who never even held hands with a guy because i was FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is my 5th lifetime lay. and now i have gotten laid from nightgame, online, and normie mode. not yet daygame. fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also i finally fucked an asian girl!!!!!!!!!! literally for everyone else asian girls are the "easy girls" but they weren't for me. i found black girls liked me the most and then some white girls. the worst part is asian girls are my type!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but that's why i moved to japan

by the way, the clay figurine of a brown anime guy is me........she made that of me the day i sent her back home.......................................(she also draws anime really fucking well)

i wanted to write a bunch of takeaways here, but i think i want to simmer for a bit and write it up later. i've had some weird unrelated crap happening this weekend (not mental/emotional, some logistical crap) and i really wanted to write this report, which obviously took a lot of time so i really haven't savored this yet. i'll probably write those thoughts in future posts and reports about this girl (i would be surprised if that night was the last time lol)

btw i'm still going to be doing nampa coaching and also diving into that. i said this in the first post, but this was and is a side project. hoping to be getting a lot of missing experience by hanging out with this girl, and lot of time spent with her will definitely transfer to future interactions with other girls

also my previous lay/plate was also a virgin. bulldog, the virgin hunter, is now in business!!!




great

reflections on viewtopic.php?p=58452#p58452



getting this far was actually my original vision when i started on kyil.

and not just from then, this is what i wanted when i was playing fucking nekopara 7 years ago
more on that here: viewtopic.php?p=43797#p43797

but yeah. now i am literally the visual novel protagonist.

i'm in japan. and now it's time to bang more anime girls.

took a few days to relax and settle into this win

starting my grind again rn

i had made a 20 minute long video, but (maybe for the better) it refuses to upload, so time for a text post



as i've said previously, i started nampa coaching this past week. we did a fashion overhaul (~$500 for 3 shirts, 2 jeans, shoes, and some accessories).

i've also gotten hair straightening (~$200) and laser hair removal on my face (~$600 for 6 sessions over the next 9 months) in may



after a quick photoshoot from my coach and 1 billion filters, here is the result of that:

note that i'm only posting these photos on kyil because you have to be logged in to view pics here. i was scolded by my coaching group for posting even a bottom half fashion pic on twitter bc it would potentially reveal the group's identity. so if u want to show someone this for whatever reason, pls keep it within kyil members only and just send the kyil post. ok thanks bye

wow colgate, you look like a total FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!! are u trying to date guys?????????????????????? i could knock yo ass out with ONE PUNCH!!!!!!!! what happened to roided out bulldog?????

ok
i've gotten ~25 matches from roughly ~200 swipes so far and it was my first day. also i didn't boost or anything and still don't know all the ins and outs.


here is the dating app: https://tapple.me/

i've seen it advertised everywhere here and my coach told me to use it (tinder has a reputation for being the "foreigner dating app" and filled with bots)

tapple is only in japan. and you need to verify yourself with a japanese ID. so you literally cannot use it unless you actually live in japan. so basically tourists are banned.

jackpot!



ok colgate. why the fuck were you not busting your balls with this shit months ago? you are FUCKING RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you could have been fucking killing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to answer that, we need to dive back a bit deper



the blackpill cure
as you guys might know, i struggled quite a bit mentally over the past winter, to the point where i didn't even want to use this log and started a different log

back in october, some KYIL peers and i decided to test out our dating profiles in asia before actually moving there. @Manganiello and @lacroix set their bumble profiles to korea, while @Mimbe393939 and i set ours to japan

Manganiello and lacroix got INSANE results. they were getting 100 and 30 matches a day, respectively!!!

meanwhile my brown ass was getting 2 a week . i don't remember Mimbe doing too great either (though he did better than i was doing).



i was pissed. i spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on fashion and photoshoots, in addition to slamming the weights in the gym for the better part of the year, and i was still getting jack shit?

(though ironically this was the impetus that finally pushed me to book a flight to japan. SAYONARA BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

but i had arrived in japan with the mindset that "white guys just have it easy, i don't get any advantages for being a foreigner despite being american, whine whine complain". no longer did i read lay reports from other guys with joy and inspiration like i once did. any time i saw a white guy with a hot japanese chick i coped and seethed. there were a couple times i stared some of them down with a grimace of disgust.

it didn't help that my housemate at the time was a total player, despite being some lanky ass mfer with stick arms. he was a white dude from europe. normally i would have jumped on the opportunity to hit the clubs every night he went out and i probably would have had some awesome experiences.

but no, i decided to mope in my room like a retard, despite moving to my teenage dream country

(hey it did help me with my workouts tho. i was going hard af in the gym lol. i went from 67 to 72kg from november to february)



the thing that initially got me out of this deep down was @MakingAComeback 's biohacking tips. after turning myself into a depressed emo fag from also staying up until the morning and being on the computer all day, his stuff really got me feeling good again and ready to actually take some action.

i think the best thing you can do even if you're absolutely blackpilled and full incel mode is biohacking . even if you think it's completely fucking over for you, and you will never be able to have the dating life of your dreams, the least you can do is focus on your physical health. being in a state of hopelessness obviously leads neglecting your body. and there's no fucking way you'll be able to recover out of negative mindsets and being blackpilled if the literal vehicle of your existence is broken .

so i am now convinced the #1 priority for hyper-blackpilled dudes is to biohack their way to the point of at least feeling physically good.

@MakingAComeback obviously started far lower than i did and made his way as an established member in this community from his biohacking.

even before i joined the forums and was aware of the term "biohacking", in 2021 i had been focusing on health for about half a year. that resulted in me "organically" deciding i wanted to start getting into dating and ultimately finding KYIL. it happened again here in japan, once i started feeling healthy again from MAC's biohacking tips, i gained the desire to go to local social events and do things other than sit in my room all day seething.

if your body isn't healthy, you do not even have the physical capability of resolving your blackpill situation (whether it's looks or mindset/attitude on women, anything). on the other hand, if you are healthy, you will just want to start dating and being social again.

so if you're in a situation where you have a very negative attitude on dating and your action isn't helping you achieve results, i would strongly suggest spending 3-6 months doubling down on improving your physical health over anything else, and then come back to direct dating action (this would also help you build a habit of daily discipline, which is obviously also invaluable).



the asiapill
back to me getting "jack shit" on the apps in asia while my peers had more pussy than they knew what to do with.



i have realized now that i had two fundamental misunderstandings when it came to dating asian (and specifically japanese) girls:




1: THE KPOP IDOL FEMININE BOY IS THE MOST ATTRACTIVE ARCHETYPE IN EAST ASIA
ARCHETYPES ARE IMPORTANT . guys who naturally fall into an archetype do not realize the importance of it until they meet other guys who did not naturally fit an archetype.

the androgynous, k-pop, feminine style is the MOST ATTRACTIVE ARCHETYPE here. at least as of 2023. ^ i swiped this pic from a JAPANESE PICKUP TWITTER account. i have no idea who this guy is nor do i have any interest in kpop

pickup guys in japan who look like this + approach like mad can get minimum 2 lays a week from just chilling, and if they push the limit and approach 5-7 hours every day, they can get 50-70 lays a MONTH. btw that's the coaching group i joined.

the degree to which this is true could not be demonstrated further than by simply looking at what points japanese pickup guys decide to invest their self-improvement in:

plastic.
surgery.



yes, for every rep in the gym, for every tub of chicken and rice, for every tattoo, for every beard hair growth application a western pickup guy does, a japanese pickup guy will do yet another procedure to adjust the smallest asymmetry in their face, they will add a little more makeup here in this little spot, add yet another filter to their dating and LINE profile picture.

and it works...!!!???

my coach said he has spent tens of thousands of dollars in plastic surgery and has written a whole $200 guide on what a guy might need to do. i went out to dinner with the group the other day and my coach was seething at some handsome high school boys for being naturally good looking, while he had to get a bunch of procedures to look the way he does now.

(side note: i personally do not have to do any plastic surgery because apparently i have a naturally attractive face. ironically i might have to get some kind of botox or chill on the lifting because my jaw muscles have "overdeveloped" apparently. i'm holding off on this for now but it was a comment i received) i don't think this has ever been made aware to western pickup communities, because the second most attractive archetype is being white. furthermore, i think many foreigners who come to asia look down on japanese guys since they steal their girls (which is not entirely false lol). and this kind of feminine appearance is looked down upon by guys who have likely fucking busted their balls to become masculine.

the only reason i was able to have this awareness is because
1. i'm not white and brown people are kind of still a mysterious alien race here (people are surprised when they hear i'm american and that english is my native language)
2. i have been diving headfirst into the japanese side of pickup, rather than joining the foreigner pickup community here

FORTUNATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have a very young looking face!

holy shit...looking younger than my age is going to help me for the first time in my life!

i also have naturally very good and glowing skin, so i don't even need makeup. all i needed was laser hair removal on my face and hair straightening.

wow this was accidentally a geomaxx!!!

the moment i changed my LINE pic to these kpop-idol filter ones, i got messages from three different japanese female friends i knew, and of course my 18yo classmate gf, saying how it's her type (but only the style!!! not me yet of course!!! because she's a tsundere!!!)

...

i'm going to give myself slack for this misunderstanding. this kind of knowledge is only the type of knowledge you could gain from actually living in a place for a while and trying to understand what's going on. admittedly i resisted it for 3-4 months because of my ego and wanting to be some FUCKIN JACKED BODYBUILDER! but i mean, you have to do what gets results lol. girls dont care about what you like at the end of the day.

(quick side note: i have actually seen incredibly jacked japanese dudes with a very specific type of tanned bimbo japanese girl archetype called "gyaru". so it's definitely not over for the jacked dudes, and if anything it's still attractive, but it's just far more polarizing. i would actually say being a gym bro is the third most attractive archetype here, provided you're still generally neat and clean looking)

on the other hand, this next misunderstanding is FUCKING RETARDED. and i wallowed way too hard in being blackpilled instead of doing my research, and it honestly should not have happened


2: NOBODY FUCKING USES BUMBLE IN JAPAN!!!
yes.

when i talk about bumble to japanese nampa friends, they have never heard of it

@Toast did get some success on bumble here. but it's literally the white guy app that probably only foreign fetisher girls know about. i remember running out of girls often while swiping on bumble.

so i basically developed an entire doomer depression mindset over results on a dating app nobody uses in the country i was targeting
^ the power of negativity. lmfao

and a side note about a key difference between korea and japan:

the english proficiency/giving a shit about% for japanese people is extremely low. i have approached maybe two girls out of ~300 who said they had any english proficiency. and very few of my japanese friends can speak english.

on the other hand, the english proficiency of korea is likely over 80%! especially if you go near university and high-class areas. furthermore, there was a time @Toast and i approached a duo together. they were asian and i had approached in japanese, to which they retorted in a perfect american accent :
"you guys know we speak english right?"

we vibed with them for a bit, and they had not only perfect english, but it had a tinge of california accent and slang use. but they were 100% korean-born and raised, never been to america . what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i didn't hear a single note of korean accent. after relaying this to @lacroix , it turns out that this isn't even rare , and koreans are going hard with english, harder than anyone else in asia.

so if you are a white dude with an american accent, korea will be your playground. i might even consider checking it out myself for a gamecation.

i only elucidated on this tangent, because this helped me fully understand the bumble passport results and the disparity between mine and the korea dudes'. and it would make more sense that bumble is not only viable but excellent in korea.






anyway yes so im gonna hustle the apps blah blah etc haha ok bye

thanks everyone for the support and comments!

klondike wrote: ↑

Sun 2023-06-11 05:00

I wouldn't do that--as it is, your face has harmony. One part of the face affects all the others.

in my dating journey, i've learn that this is yet another one of those things where you hear it, and then 8-10 months down the line you end up seeing all the dots connect in the grand scheme of things, and then you may end up doing it. or maybe not.

here's a short list of similar things i've done that fall in this category during this journey:
- roids (heard in november 2021, started in april 2022 and it helped quite a bit, but since changing markets, considering PCTing possibly)
most of the really jacked instagram looking dudes that girls fall for use roids, the side effects of test e alone (tren is another conversation lol) are overstated (guys on roids still get chicks pregnant), and PCT exists
- escorts (heard in october 2021, bit the bullet in june 2022, got actually laid for real less than a month later)
you need to know what sex is like, get over your ego, it's safe because if an escort had stds she would literally lose her livelihood
- online dating (heard before i joined the forums from kyil in 2021, finally took it seriously july 2022 and got more date experience and sexual experiences)
another "drop the ego" thing, and get over your "hatred of the internet ruining the world even though it also actually massively fucking improved your life in a way that would otherwise be impossible you doomer"

Ed_ wrote: ↑

Sun 2023-06-11 13:36

These pickup guys must be pulling your chain here. 70 lays a month would be two or three a day, everyday of the week. When would you have the time? What guy has the sex drive to pull that off?

as i said in the same sentence, they were trying to push the limits and were approaching for 5-7 hours a day

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/v1WVDbUpiiM this is the kind of place they were approaching

and yes they were getting laid 2-3 times a day. it's actually interesting because somehow getting laid 3x a day here is common enough that they even have their own slang for it

my coach said he was literally not coming on purpose in a tweet. this is like the most advanced form of nofap of all time lmao.

i will not post their profile links in my public log for identity reasons, but i've posted the links over in my private log if you guys on kyil want to see it for yourself:
viewtopic.php?p=58825#p58825

scroll down a bit on both profiles until you get to may. they both challenged themselves to get as many lays as humanly possible in that month, and posted lay reports + pics for every lay they got.

since then, they've been taking a bit of a month-long break and chilling since being out for 6+ hours a day approaching is obviously insane. 50-70 lays a month isn't meant to be an average, it's literally meant to be world record type shit. i'm not even expecting to ever be able to pull that shit off and the coach even told me i probably wouldn't be able to pull it off (i told him i want to get laid on average once a week from slamming the streets and he said that is probably possible). i've never heard such blunt honesty in the west haha.

you can decide if you want to believe it or not. "omg well all the photos are just generated from AI". as for me, this is the kind of insanity that i want to be a part of. i would literally rather take a risk and get duped on this and provide more value afterward to everyone than "play it safe and not believe something that doesn't sound true" from limited life experience.

sometimes the decisions that end up being the best are not the ones where you "logically evaluated from every angle and are 100% certain that it is good", but the ones that you just gambled on off of wild fucking dreams. the former assumes that you even have the experience to do such an evaluation in the first place.

FUCK IT! TAKE THE PLUNGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i think @pancakemouse may be one of the few people who can maybe fathom what i'm talking about since he actively does daygame in new york, which is another "insane daygame place" on the level of tokyo.

Ed_ wrote: ↑

Sun 2023-06-11 13:36

Coming from my view as an American, this is such a bizarre culture. I can't imagine an American guy with a dozen plastic surgeries and an intricate makeup routine getting laid more than a guy with an average looking face who's in great shape (six pack muscles, etc.). Not defending the values of American women in the dating market, but it's very interesting what seems to work in Japan.

this is the exact same culture shock i had, and as i mentioned, even i had a lot of mental resistance to it until i finally was here for long enough to see it for myself, as i've said in previous posts

i think the ultimate lesson here is understanding the wants of the girls you want, and then trying to make yourself into that as much as possible (which i had not done for the longest time, especially the former)

also just had my 18yo classmate over again. she basically invited herself over

tbh there's almost zero game value from me writing out the actual story this time, so i'm not going to write a long fucking novel even though i definitely could. last night and this morning were so special that i actually would rather not explicate it all out in a public text log lol. it's going to be my secret forever, and only my experience sorryyyyyyy get ur own technically legal virgin gf




random maybe value points:

pushy colgate is over, time to PULL WAY THE FUCK BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
pulling waaaaay the fuck back and giving her space actually is making her hyper lovey-dovey to me.

i basically hardly do anything at this point because i've already proven that i have the balls to escalate on her as i please. also i know she likes me . at this point now, if i do "push hard" on something, she completely turns cold and our dynamic turns into stalemate.

framing everything i actually want to do as her idea and even straight up asking what she wants to do next has not only gotten me things i want out of her, but she's opened up about things she wants from me and given me experiences i couldn't even imagine.


deliberately going to limit how often i see her
the experience from last night was so good i told her that we should not meet next week under the premise that she needs to study for her exams and i want her to ace them.

one cool thing she had done while we were spending time together is that even tho she brought stuff to study after we fucked, she stopped in the middle of her studies and said "u know what, i can do this when i'm by myself. i want to focus on you when i'm here".

as for me, this is my fucking side project . my current goal is to bang a japanese girl!!!! this girl is chinese!!! not all asians are the same!!!!!!!!

and obviously i have more goals beyond that. i think i 70% align with @pancakemouse 's blog post about why he does game for all the self-improvement reasons, with the fundamental difference that i still want to chase girls for the sake of girls lol. but once i "get a girl" or whatever, even if we are a 100% perfect match and she literally tells me she loves me in a high pitched anime voice on purpose that is actually accurate (partially because she's doing it in japanese) while riding my diamond hard cock!!! over my clothes (because i still haven't completely broken into her yet), this shit is literally a drug at the end of the day and i don't want to steer this down the path where she wants to see me everyday.

so gonna limit seeing her to probably 4 times a month. we also keep the "relationship" a secret at school because it's more fun that way. i would be wasting my time if i tried to just settle into her for a while. let's just fuckin go man. i'm not ready to fall off the forums and this ride. i just got fucking started bro. i got @MakingAComeback and the nampa coaching group on my ass about this because i dont know if i trust myself to be accountable on it lol




the only additional game-related goal i have with her at this point is getting her to dress up in slutty japanese high school girl clothes and looksmaxx out of her plain college asian look (she's already changed her hairstyle, avoids wearing glasses, bought dresses and skirts, and bought lingerie because of me). god to have the looksmaxxed version of her walking around with me in the city and then heading off to a love hotel would be a fucking dream.

then have a pic of us like @kyil_andy 's homepage

what a day

took fucking 3 hours but i bought an iphone specifically for dating-only use (tapple android is buggy af and i also couldn't verify my line profile)

then my 18yo gf agreed to looksmaxxing for the greatest possible reason of all time:
i'm gonna wear it everywhere. to school. on our dates. you are going to have the cutest girlfriend ever and make everyone jealous

also she sent a photoshopped pic of herself with my suggestions

how the fuck did i hit the jackpot on my 5th lay ever

now i just need to do it again. several times

fUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuckin CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i brought a chick all the way to my house

and then she didn't freakin ENTER!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU FUCK ME FUCK THIS GAY FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




lesson learned from my coach: in japan, never try to instapull to your house. always instapull to a hotel.

i went to my house out of habit. now i learned my FUCKIN lesson......................................




i also learned a lot more about stops and the general stack i need to be doing, but i want to write it up more comprehensively later and i just wanted to type a bunch of exclamation marks right now. there were obviously a lot of things i was doing wrong earlier but also a lot of things i was right about

the main misconception i had is it's not quite rocket approach and focusing on the number of approaches is probably bad because then you get penalized for actually vibing with girls. still, 30-50+ approaches over 3-4 hours is not rare

and i learned it's not even instadates

it's freaking instapulls

it's literally, talk in the station, go to the convenience store, and instapull to a hotel (hotels in japan have e.g. 2-3 hour rates, lmfao they know people do this shit)

if you can't instapull cuz of the girl but the vibe is good, you can exchange contacts and try for a date that way. in that case pulling to your house is ok. but not for instadates/instapulls




wed 6/14: 15 approaches, 1 contact
thu 6/15: 13 approaches, 1 failed instapull

Manganiello wrote: ↑

Thu 2023-06-15 23:16

Omg. Instapull too. Bummer man.

Lesson for next time.

Would've been a sick lay report.

What's the logic with the love hotel pull?
I thought that would automatically be higher last minute resistance and antislut defence.

yeah, actually that logic is completely backwards in japan

somehow going to your house is scarier

i think with hotels, there's staff and it's a predictable environment for the girl. it's not like you'll have a freaking knife collection in a hotel and if something goes wrong, the girl can probably just loudly scream or press some emergency button idk

this is also the second time this has happened to me. and i didn't realize the pull location itself was the problem

probably will try to convince my gf to go with me to a love hotel one of these days to check it out

Fuckboy Aspirant wrote: ↑

Fri 2023-06-16 04:17

Honestly, back in my country we have the same love hotel culture as Japan

you had the love hotel culture perhaps, but your country also wasn't japan, where the most attractive archetype is a guy putting on lip gloss in the middle of the sesh (this is NOT hyperbole)

Fuckboy Aspirant wrote: ↑

Fri 2023-06-16 04:17

That's completely different from ''just chilling'' at your place or ''watch a movie''. It's a no-brainer. I don't get where is this coach coming from honestly.

again, i tried to think of the logic here, i might actually dig into it later and find out what japanese people's reasons would be. but this is what i gleaned: viewtopic.php?p=59032#p59032

i basically have to drop my brain out of the picture and follow instructions from someone who knows his way in and out of the country...and hundreds of girls...from this exact method



also i shouldn't have said "love hotel" because that's not the only type of hotel here lol. also most guys don't pull to straight up love hotels haha. i think i just mixed up wanting to go to a love hotel and having a convenient person to go to one with, with the hotels that would be used for nampa

yes, love hotels exist, but there are """regular""" hotels that aren't "meant" for sex. the rates are hourly, not daily (they have "break" and "stay" rates). i guess the "target audience" for those outside of fucking, are probably the same audience as manga/net cafes. except it's more comfortable. if you have a long commute or otherwise want to just take a break, you can check into one of these hourly hotels.

so i think there is actual plausible deniability on the girl's part even if you pull to a hotel.

but idk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate theory discussions when we haven't really executed anything yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i will post a lay report and then we can wank each other off about theories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!